know, she's from manhattan, very culturally sophisticated, a conductor, as i've said, so very well-educated and is a person who reads a lot and punctuates a lot of her conversation with very sophisticated, literary references, and that didn't go off so well down in west virginia. it also didn't go over so well when she was first married to the governor and became first lady, did a couple of interviews and was asked, "do you ever read the papers in west virginia? what do you think?" and she said, "oh, i don't ever--i don't ever read them. i only read the new york times." now she later corrected herself in another interview, but sort of amplified it by saying, "i don't read the local newspapers because i never like to read the papers where i conduct because i'm too sensitive to criticism. plus, i do read the papers, because you have to get something here, because you can't get the new york times." so she had a little bit of difficulty sometimes of not knowing when to stop. c-span: the relationship between gaston caperton and his wife and the rockefellers -- senator and mrs. jay rockefeller? b